Interview for
Natalia Hernandez
7/25/2020
Interviewed By:
Rosmeilyn Jerez
Date Interviewed:
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Summary
Born in Güines, Cuba, Natalia immigrated to Miami, Florida at the age of 9 with family. She compares her experiences in the American education system to that of Cuba and describes her immigration process as well as her relationship with her family, faith, and politics.
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Narrator: Natalia Hernandez
Date: July 25, 2020
Location: Ithaca, New York (Virtual)
Summary: Natalia Hernandez, an immigrant from Cuba, discusses her childhood in Cuba and the process of immigrating to America with her family. She also goes into detail about her experiences as a Latina in high school and college at Cornell University.
Topics: Childhood, Education, Politics, Immigration Process, Family, Cultural Adjustment, Employment, Cultural Adjustment, Religion, Pandemic, Mental Health, Discrimination, Politics
Outline
Section 1: (00:00-15:02)
Childhood- Born and raised in Güines, Cuba until age 9, then immigrated to Miami, Florida in a neighborhood known as “North Cuba” with family
Education- Noticed differences between schooling and school culture in Cuba and the U.S. (i.e. uniforms, teachers)
Politics, Childhood- Recounts a story where something she said was interpreted as being pro-Capitalism and getting in trouble with her teacher
Immigration Process- Having to keep it a secret that her family was planning on moving because of the backlash that comes to families that leave
Family, Politics- Family is split on how they feel about communism
Some are staunch supporters of Castro, others are tired of the poverty and living conditions
Family- Varadero is a special place to her because her parents met there and they have a family home there where she grew up visiting
Showed the interviewer a jewelry holder her uncle made out of shells from the beach in Varadero
Section 2: (15:02-28:01)
Immigration Process- Remembers her family trying to move furniture out in secret at 3:00am because they lived right next to what was essentially a Communist Party neighborhood watch group
Recalls the immigration process at the airport in Cuba and all of her family members being there to send them off
Immigration Process- The U.S. immigration process was much worse than Cuba. Having to wait in “el cuartico” or “the room” for hours before they were allowed to enter
Immigration Process- Delayed because her dad’s name was Fidel and her brother did not complete the mandatory year of service to the Communist Party
Family- Family in the U.S. that she had never met was there to greet her family
Family, Immigration Process- Grandpa “claimed” their family to have them immigrate, which is a relatively easier way to immigrate even with all that they had to go through
Education, Immigration Process- Part of the reason for keeping immigration secret was to prevent teachers and students from treating her differently
Section 3: (28:01-41:54)
Family- Grandpa had rented an apartment for their family, so they had their own space upon immigrating
Cultural Adjustment, Education- Had a very difficult time adjusting to school in the U.S. because of the language barrier despite being a good student in Cuba
Had many mean teachers
Employment- Mother and father at first struggled to find work, then had working hours that made it difficult to see them
Education- School psychologist started tutoring her English and became a support person
Education- Struggled a lot with school in fourth grade, but got more comfortable in 5th grade. Schooling became more intense in 6th grade at the charter school
Language- Starting processing mentally in English rather than translating to Spanish in her mind in the 8th grade
Feels privileged to have immigrated young because she became more comfortable with English
Section 4: (41:54-1:00:06)
Education, Family- Pressure from her parents to get all A’s, go to college, and attain a better life– internalizing that mentality
Education, Family- Was the first person in her family to really try and aim for out-of-state and Ivy Leagues, so she didn’t have much help from them
Education- Applied to many Ivies and prestigious schools with the help of her school counselor and friends that had gotten into these schools in prior years
Applied to Cornell the day of the deadline and received a “likely letter” the day after
Family- College application and selection process was difficult for her because her parents didn’t understand the process.
Cultural Difference- College process in Cuba was very different which is why it was hard for her parents to understand
Religion, Education- Mother told her of a college friend in Cuba who was ranked lower as a student because she went to church often
Section 5: (1:00:06-1:14:54)
Religion- Grew up Catholic but considers herself to be spiritual, not religious
Went to church for special occasions
Realized she didn’t adhere to Catholicism or Christianity around 15/16 after her “uncle” passed
Became more spiritual in college
Religion, Politics- Faced backlash from her extended family when she thought she was atheist because atheism was so closely associated with Communism and generally being a bad person
Religion- Sees morality as tied to religion within the Latinx and Cuban community
Religion- In her freshman year, she had discussions around spirituality with friends and in classes. She was thinking about what she believed and how she could believe in multiple things
Got into Astrology
Religion- When she identified as Atheist she was associated as being more American and less Cuban
Pandemic, Religion- Difficult to have deeper conversations with her parents over the phone
Section 6: (1:14:54-1:26:35)
Pandemic, Employment/Service- Was working at the Office of Student Advocates at the onset of the pandemic, so she was trying to get resources for students and lobby administration
Wasn’t processing the events that were taking place because she was doing a lot of work
Pandemic- Was living in the dorms at the onset of the pandemic, did not feel like she was in a stable place
Observed that the economy was prioritized over people, specifically marginalized peoples
Identity- She is thankful to be a citizen and for the opportunities she has gotten, but still critical of the country and its injustices
Politics- During the Black Lives Matter protests, she noticed a lot of performative actions by corporations and white Americans, but also genuine people on the ground at protests.
Also witnessed rage in the form of riots and protests from oppressed peoples
Politics- Got into Facebook fights over Black Lives Matter with Cuban family who immigrated in the 60s/70s and who have since accumulated generational wealth
Many white Cubans consistently support Trump and are racist
Perceived as communist for voting Bernie
Section 7 (1:26:35-1:35:42)
Education- Had negative experiences in PSP, a free freshman summer program for Cornell students
Students realized they had to participate in the program because they were marginalized in some way and resented the program for making them do more work
Beneficial socially
Identity, Cultural Adjustment- Being at Cornell, a PWI, was the first time she really felt like a minority because she was the majority at Miami
Cultural Adjustment- Greek Life and multicultural Greek Life were very prevalent at Cornell. She did not want to participate in either and had critiques of Greek Life.
Section 8 (1:35:42-1:50:00)
Mental Health- Was feeling symptoms of depression her sophomore year. Her dean was one of the first people to tell her she may be depressed.
Almost was not able return for the next semester
Family, Mental Health- The difficulty of explaining mental health struggle to immigrant parents
Education, Mental Health- Junior year was better for her compared to previous years because she got to take a break the summer before.
Discrimination- While living in the Latino Living Community, the fraternity next door had a sign saying “build a wall” around the LLC.
An example of the types of things Latinx students face on campus
Identity- Has privilege as a white Latina, but still gets insensitive comments and glances when people realize she is Latinx.
Mental Health, Family- Mom was understanding of her going to therapy, but the initial conversation about her mental health was difficult
Politics, Immigration, Religion- Sees these three as being very intertwined how Cubans engage with the political system